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Stop criticising the Crusaders! Everyone picks on them. It’s not fair.

Too right.

Some of you ungrateful fucks need to start thanking us for allowing the comp to benefit from the players we develop.

The Chiefs have been propped up by Retallick, Leinert-Brown and McKenzie (the good family members; not Calum, Daniel and Marty). Their poaching knows no bounds with Dom Bird, Tom Sanders, SBW, Nepo Laulala and Solomon Alaimalo other shining examples helping to form their patchwork quilt of a playing roster over the last decade.

We let one of our best up and coming coaches head north to try and make the Blues respectable and eventually get them to a faux championship, whilst also gifting them Sam Darry this year as a further boost. Hell, we even allowed and forgave DC a Blues dalliance recently. Not so much those Chemist Warehouse ads. Our generosity should be acknowledged.

The Hurricanes have benefitted from, well, umm, Reed Prinsep, but at 1.78m he's given their line out a significant boost now for a number of years. Oh and Mal Arnold. Or was it Derek Maisley.

Then I notice Highlanders fans never utter a peep when these threads turn into poaching debates. And nor should they given the encyclopaedia of Crusaders and just generally good Cantabs they've picked up over the years to plug the seive-like holes in their annual roster scramble. Lately they've gone for a Stiflers' mom approach and pilfered the likes of Sam Gilbert and Will Tucker but they also like to have a veritable who's who of Cantab loose forwards in the mix with Harmon and Lentjes there now to replace Dixon and Manu.

And let's not forget Sam Harding.

Patrick Osborne, Colin Slade and Rob Thompson were lured south from the Crusaders environment to bolster backlines past and where would they have been without Chris King, Siate Tokolahi and DLB. But we still love you, Highlanders.

Duluth
Duluth
August 27, 6:26am

@stargazer said in Crusaders 2022:

And here it is. The most underwhelming Crusaders signing in many years.

Stop criticising the Crusaders! Everyone picks on them. It’s not fair.

booboo
booboo
August 27, 7:25am

@stargazer reckon that's an awesome signing for both parties

Chris
Chris
August 27, 8:22am

As a Crusaders fan I couldn't care less how much shit we get as long as we keep winning.
But I will stick up for my team ?

D

delicatessen
August 27, 8:57am

@mariner4life said in Crusaders 2022:

@stargazer said in Crusaders 2022:

@mariner4life said in Crusaders 2022:

"The Blues don't poach posts" i'll laugh at them too

But that's the thing, isn't it. The majority of hate posts on the Fern over the years are directed at the Crusaders with the stupid accusations of being poachers. You never read about other franchises doing the same because the Fern is mostly a Blues wankfest, and to a lesser degree the Chiefs'.

I'm not apologising for being the type of guy who sticks up for people/organisations who are most hated on, falsely accused, made fun of etc. It's who I am (it's been part of the work I've done for years) and has nothing to do with being a supporter of a franchise I'm not even a supporter of. If you'd read my posts about the Canes, you'd know which franchise I'm most frustrated about (and therefore care most about, although I find it hard to call myself a fan). It's also made me the guy who sees the glass half full, where this whole forum is soaked in negativety, criticism etc. The Grumpy Old Men thread could be the name of almost everry thread on the Fern!

no, and don't ever stop, your relentless positivity is totally needed in here.

just don't take the shit people post so seriously. I think (hope) most of it is piss-taking (if it's not, some of you motherfuckers need to talk to someone. Get help).

I wouldn't call it a wankfest for any of it. Pretty much every single fan hates their franchise with a deep unbridled passion. THere are also Hurricanes fans. There are a few hard-core defenders for each, but in the main everyone hates Super rugby, hates the team they "support" and thinks they have shit players and shit coaches. So we take shots at others, the Crusaders is just easy. Fuck could you imagine the shit Auckland would have taken if the Fern existed in the late 80s-late 90s?? God the vitriol. Those fucking cheating poachers! Carrington stepped over the dead ball line the cheating fuck!!!

And the White Knights get relentlessly mocked, even @Kirwan who could ban us all for it. The Crusaders fans just need to accept that winning everything all the time doesn't make you liked.

it makes you fluffybunnies...

You're making good points mate. Can't be doing that on here.

MajorRage
MajorRage
August 27, 9:31am

@stargazer said in Crusaders 2022:

@mariner4life said in Crusaders 2022:

"The Blues don't poach posts" i'll laugh at them too

But that's the thing, isn't it. The majority of hate posts on the Fern over the years are directed at the Crusaders with the stupid accusations of being poachers. You never read about other franchises doing the same because the Fern is mostly a Blues wankfest, and to a lesser degree the Chiefs'.

No. Definiteily a bigger chiefs wank fest then Blues. It's just the guys that own the site are Blues, so try to bring us down to their level.

I'm not apologising for being the type of guy who sticks up for people/organisations who are most hated on, falsely accused, made fun of etc. It's who I am (it's been part of the work I've done for years) and has nothing to do with being a supporter of a franchise I'm not even a supporter of. If you'd read my posts about the Canes, you'd know which franchise I'm most frustrated about (and therefore care most about, although I find it hard to call myself a fan). It's also made me the guy who sees the glass half full, where this whole forum is soaked in negativety, criticism etc. The Grumpy Old Men thread could be the name of almost everry thread on the Fern!

Not seen you much in the politics forum. You shouldn't give it a go. For your sanity.

Duluth
Duluth
August 27, 9:43am

@majorrage said in Crusaders 2022:

No. Definiteily a bigger chiefs wank fest then Blues. It's just the guys that own the site are Blues, so try to bring us down to their level.

Way too many Chiefs mods. Over half of them are Chiefs scum

Anyway, every side gets plenty of shit.

As for sides getting a disproportionate amount of chat on TSF? It would be a tie between Northland and Hawkes Bay. Which is fine. If fans of other sides want more chat about their team - post more about them.

MajorRage
MajorRage
August 27, 9:46am

@duluth Don't blame the mods. Blame the board that chooses the mods.

booboo
booboo
August 27, 9:51am

@chris said in Crusaders 2022:

As a Crusaders fan I couldn't care less how much shit we get as long as we keep winning.
But I will stick up for my team ?

An upvote but I hate you

Chris
Chris
August 27, 9:58am

@booboo said in Crusaders 2022:

@chris said in Crusaders 2022:

As a Crusaders fan I couldn't care less how much shit we get as long as we keep winning.
But I will stick up for my team ?

An upvote but I hate you

Only to be expected ?

D

delicatessen
August 27, 10:34am

@shark said in Crusaders 2022:

@duluth said in Crusaders 2022:

@stargazer said in Crusaders 2022:

And here it is. The most underwhelming Crusaders signing in many years.

Stop criticising the Crusaders! Everyone picks on them. It’s not fair.

Then I notice Highlanders fans never utter a peep when these threads turn into poaching debates. And nor should they given the encyclopaedia of Crusaders and just generally good Cantabs theyve picked up over the years to plug the seive-like holes in their annual roster scramble. Lately they've gone for a Stiflers' mom approach and pilfered the likes of Sam Gilbert and Will Tucker but they also like to have a veritable who's who of Cantab loose forwards in the mix with Harmon and Lentjes there now to replace Dixon and Manu. And let's not forget Sam Harding. Patrick Osborne, Colin Slade and Rob Thompson were lured south from the Crusaders environment to bolster backlines past and where would they have been without Chris King, Siate Tokolahi and DLB. But we still love you, Highlanders.

I mean your best fullback in recent memory was poached from the Highlanders, but say on.

booboo
booboo
August 27, 10:34am

@shark said in Crusaders 2022:

@duluth said in Crusaders 2022:

@stargazer said in Crusaders 2022:

And here it is. The most underwhelming Crusaders signing in many years.

Stop criticising the Crusaders! Everyone picks on them. It’s not fair.

Too right.

Some of you ungrateful fucks need to start thanking us for allowing the comp to benefit from the players we develop.

The Chiefs have been propped up by Retallick, Leinert-Brown and McKenzie (the good family members; not Calum, Daniel and Marty). Their poaching knows no bounds with Dom Bird, Tom Sanders, SBW, Nepo Laulala and Solomon Alaimalo other shining examples helping to form their patchwork quilt of a playing roster over the last decade.

We let one of our best up and coming coaches head north to try and make the Blues respectable and eventually get them to a faux championship, whilst also gifting them Sam Darry this year as a further boost. Hell, we even allowed and forgave DC a Blues dalliance recently. Not so much those Chemist Warehouse ads. Our generosity should be acknowledged.

The Hurricanes have benefitted from, well, umm, Reed Prinsep, but at 1.78m he's given their line out a significant boost now for a number of years. Oh and Mal Arnold. Or was it Derek Maisley.

Then I notice Highlanders fans never utter a peep when these threads turn into poaching debates. And nor should they given the encyclopaedia of Crusaders and just generally good Cantabs theyve picked up over the years to plug the seive-like holes in their annual roster scramble. Lately they've gone for a Stiflers' mom approach and pilfered the likes of Sam Gilbert and Will Tucker but they also like to have a veritable who's who of Cantab loose forwards in the mix with Harmon and Lentjes there now to replace Dixon and Manu. And let's not forget Sam Harding. Patrick Osborne, Colin Slade and Rob Thompson were lured south from the Crusaders environment to bolster backlines past and where would they have been without Chris King, Siate Tokolahi and DLB. But we still love you, Highlanders.

You forgot Mitchell Hunt

Nepia
Nepia
August 27, 11:04am

@shark said in Crusaders 2022:

Some of you ungrateful fucks need to start thanking us for allowing the comp to benefit from the players we develop.
The Chiefs have been propped up by Retallick

Lose use of the term develop. We took BBBR from obscurity and turned him into a world beater, meanwhile you poached the raw talent of Dom Bird and turned him into Big Bird.

Chris
Chris
August 27, 11:18am

@shark said in Crusaders 2022:

@duluth said in Crusaders 2022:

@stargazer said in Crusaders 2022:

And here it is. The most underwhelming Crusaders signing in many years.

Stop criticising the Crusaders! Everyone picks on them. It’s not fair.

Too right.

Some of you ungrateful fucks need to start thanking us for allowing the comp to benefit from the players we develop.

The Chiefs have been propped up by Retallick, Leinert-Brown and McKenzie (the good family members; not Calum, Daniel and Marty). Their poaching knows no bounds with Dom Bird, Tom Sanders, SBW, Nepo Laulala and Solomon Alaimalo other shining examples helping to form their patchwork quilt of a playing roster over the last decade.

We let one of our best up and coming coaches head north to try and make the Blues respectable and eventually get them to a faux championship, whilst also gifting them Sam Darry this year as a further boost. Hell, we even allowed and forgave DC a Blues dalliance recently. Not so much those Chemist Warehouse ads. Our generosity should be acknowledged.

The Hurricanes have benefitted from, well, umm, Reed Prinsep, but at 1.78m he's given their line out a significant boost now for a number of years. Oh and Mal Arnold. Or was it Derek Maisley.

Then I notice Highlanders fans never utter a peep when these threads turn into poaching debates. And nor should they given the encyclopaedia of Crusaders and just generally good Cantabs theyve picked up over the years to plug the seive-like holes in their annual roster scramble. Lately they've gone for a Stiflers' mom approach and pilfered the likes of Sam Gilbert and Will Tucker but they also like to have a veritable who's who of Cantab loose forwards in the mix with Harmon and Lentjes there now to replace Dixon and Manu. And let's not forget Sam Harding. Patrick Osborne, Colin Slade and Rob Thompson were lured south from the Crusaders environment to bolster backlines past and where would they have been without Chris King, Siate Tokolahi and DLB. But we still love you, Highlanders.

Amen Brother

shark
shark
August 27, 5:18pm

@nepia said in Crusaders 2022:

@shark said in Crusaders 2022:

Some of you ungrateful fucks need to start thanking us for allowing the comp to benefit from the players we develop.
The Chiefs have been propped up by Retallick

Lose use of the term develop. We took BBBR from obscurity and turned him into a world beater, meanwhile you poached the raw talent of Dom Bird and turned him into Big Bird.

Cute.

N

nostrildamus
August 28, 5:48am

@delicatessen said in Crusaders 2022:

@shark said in Crusaders 2022:

@duluth said in Crusaders 2022:

@stargazer said in Crusaders 2022:

And here it is. The most underwhelming Crusaders signing in many years.

Stop criticising the Crusaders! Everyone picks on them. It’s not fair.

Then I notice Highlanders fans never utter a peep when these threads turn into poaching debates. And nor should they given the encyclopaedia of Crusaders and just generally good Cantabs theyve picked up over the years to plug the seive-like holes in their annual roster scramble. Lately they've gone for a Stiflers' mom approach and pilfered the likes of Sam Gilbert and Will Tucker but they also like to have a veritable who's who of Cantab loose forwards in the mix with Harmon and Lentjes there now to replace Dixon and Manu. And let's not forget Sam Harding. Patrick Osborne, Colin Slade and Rob Thompson were lured south from the Crusaders environment to bolster backlines past and where would they have been without Chris King, Siate Tokolahi and DLB. But we still love you, Highlanders.

I mean your best fullback in recent memory was poached from the Highlanders, but say on.

Funny how when you search for Poaching in the National Library Archives, most of it is on the Crusaders, Christchurch, and Canterbury..
https://natlib.govt.nz/items?i[subject]=Rugby+Union+football+players&text=Poaching

Hooroo
Hooroo
August 29, 12:18am

@duluth said in Crusaders 2022:

@majorrage said in Crusaders 2022:

No. Definiteily a bigger chiefs wank fest then Blues. It's just the guys that own the site are Blues, so try to bring us down to their level.

Way too many Chiefs mods. Over half of them are Chiefs scum

Anyway, every side gets plenty of shit.

As for sides getting a disproportionate amount of chat on TSF? It would be a tie between Northland and Hawkes Bay. Which is fine. If fans of other sides want more chat about their team - post more about them.

More Blues mods than Chiefs though?

Duluth
Duluth
August 29, 12:21am
Hooroo
Hooroo
August 29, 12:22am

@duluth said in Crusaders 2022:

@hooroo

No

Is it equal? The list I just had up had more Blues?

Duluth
Duluth
August 29, 12:30am

@hooroo

8 v 5

Some haven't logged in for a while though

Snowy
Snowy
August 29, 12:45am

@duluth said in Crusaders 2022:

@hooroo

8 v 5

Some haven't logged in for a while though

Sulking because the chiefs suck?

Hooroo
Hooroo
August 29, 6:03am

@snowy said in Crusaders 2022:

@duluth said in Crusaders 2022:

@hooroo

8 v 5

Some haven't logged in for a while though

Sulking because the chiefs suck?

That would have been many years before Rennie and post Rennie without posting.

Duluth
Duluth
August 29, 6:41am

@hooroo said in Crusaders 2022:

That would have been many years before Rennie and post Rennie without posting.

Nah, that's not quite right

I'm only talking about Bartman who posted plenty about Rennie (remember 'Rage rage against the dying light' about Rennie's Chiefs taking over from the Crusaders?) and he posted during the last RWC

Anyway, lets get back to the Crusaders being poaching scum and their fans having soft skins

Chris
Chris
August 29, 6:45am

@duluth said in Crusaders 2022:

@hooroo said in Crusaders 2022:

That would have been many years before Rennie and post Rennie without posting.

Nah, that's not right

I'm only talking about Bartman who posted plenty about Rennie (remember 'Rage rage against the dying light' about Rennie's Chiefs taking over from the Crusaders?) and he posted during the last RWC

Anyway, lets get back to the Crusaders being poaching scum and their fans having soft skins

And proud of it,Poach on

N

Nevorian
August 29, 7:33am

I am always amused when people start talking about poaching in professional sport. You have to forget the sport bit and focus on the professional bit. These guys are professionals first looking for the best career path with the best rewards like most of us in the work force and then sportsmen second.

shark
shark
August 29, 8:04am

@duluth said in Crusaders 2022:

@hooroo said in Crusaders 2022:

That would have been many years before Rennie and post Rennie without posting.

Nah, that's not quite right

I'm only talking about Bartman who posted plenty about Rennie (remember 'Rage rage against the dying light' about Rennie's Chiefs taking over from the Crusaders?) and he posted during the last RWC

Anyway, lets get back to the Crusaders being poaching scum and their fans having soft skins

10

Snowy
Snowy
August 30, 1:23am

@hooroo said in Crusaders 2022:

@snowy said in Crusaders 2022:

@duluth said in Crusaders 2022:

@hooroo

8 v 5

Some haven't logged in for a while though

Sulking because the chiefs suck?

That would have been many years before Rennie and post Rennie without posting.

That just reinforced my point about the chiefs not mods. One did pack a sad and resign of course.

A couple of good years in almost 3 decades, quite a dynasty.?

Please remember that I am a blues fan so my glasshouse is extremely fragile.

shark
shark
August 30, 9:02pm

Jeez had I known my post was going to make the front page I would have tarted it up. A lot. The standard is clearly dropping around here if dross like that is deemed worthy of a front page appearance!

Machpants
Machpants
August 30, 10:39pm

@shark said in Crusaders 2022:

Jeez had I known my post was going to make the front page I would have tarted it up. A lot. The standard is clearly dropping around here if dross like that is deemed worthy of a front page appearance!

Your post was a poster child for "Awful analysis, incorrect conclusions, zero insight
Wrong about pretty much everything"

Duluth
Duluth
August 30, 11:13pm

@shark said in Crusaders 2022:

Jeez had I known my post was going to make the front page I would have tarted it up. A lot. The standard is clearly dropping around here if dross like that is deemed worthy of a front page appearance!

So many people post from phones/tablets now. It's a pleasant surprise when there 3 semi coherent sentences in a row now

So the front page is more 'promoted posts' than articles

If you want to write longer/better rants I'll keep putting them up there

Kirwan
Kirwan
August 30, 11:27pm

@shark said in Crusaders 2022:

@duluth said in Crusaders 2022:

@stargazer said in Crusaders 2022:

And here it is. The most underwhelming Crusaders signing in many years.

Stop criticising the Crusaders! Everyone picks on them. It’s not fair.

Too right.

Some of you ungrateful fucks need to start thanking us for allowing the comp to benefit from the players we develop.

The Chiefs have been propped up by Retallick, Leinert-Brown and McKenzie (the good family members; not Calum, Daniel and Marty). Their poaching knows no bounds with Dom Bird, Tom Sanders, SBW, Nepo Laulala and Solomon Alaimalo other shining examples helping to form their patchwork quilt of a playing roster over the last decade.

We let one of our best up and coming coaches head north to try and make the Blues respectable and eventually get them to a faux championship, whilst also gifting them Sam Darry this year as a further boost. Hell, we even allowed and forgave DC a Blues dalliance recently. Not so much those Chemist Warehouse ads. Our generosity should be acknowledged.

The Hurricanes have benefitted from, well, umm, Reed Prinsep, but at 1.78m he's given their line out a significant boost now for a number of years. Oh and Mal Arnold. Or was it Derek Maisley.

Then I notice Highlanders fans never utter a peep when these threads turn into poaching debates. And nor should they given the encyclopaedia of Crusaders and just generally good Cantabs theyve picked up over the years to plug the seive-like holes in their annual roster scramble. Lately they've gone for a Stiflers' mom approach and pilfered the likes of Sam Gilbert and Will Tucker but they also like to have a veritable who's who of Cantab loose forwards in the mix with Harmon and Lentjes there now to replace Dixon and Manu. And let's not forget Sam Harding. Patrick Osborne, Colin Slade and Rob Thompson were lured south from the Crusaders environment to bolster backlines past and where would they have been without Chris King, Siate Tokolahi and DLB. But we still love you, Highlanders.

Didn't you guys poach McCaw from Otago?

Nepia
Nepia
August 30, 11:35pm

Wait, we put that hot pile of rubbish on the front page? ?

Sheesh, in that case I have a follow up to my previous post so that this dodgy info doesn't spread unchecked. Fully half of the players the Chiefs "poached" were in fact poached by the Crusaders - McKenzie, Bird, SBW and Laulala.

Chris
Chris
August 30, 11:42pm

@nepia said in Crusaders 2022:

Wait, we put that hot pile of rubbish on the front page? ?

Sheesh, in that case I have a follow up to my previous post so that this dodgy info doesn't spread unchecked. Fully half of the players the Chiefs "poached" were in fact poached by the Crusaders - McKenzie, Bird, SBW and Laulala.

That’s is shocking by the Chiefs, much much worse than the Crusaders ,that’s a double poach shameful by the Chiefs.

B

bayimports
August 30, 11:43pm

havent seen it posted an sorry for going back to topic..

TTT a crusader for 2022

P

ploughboy
August 30, 11:43pm

@nepia said in Crusaders 2022:

Wait, we put that hot pile of rubbish on the front page? ?

Sheesh, in that case I have a follow up to my previous post so that this dodgy info doesn't spread unchecked. Fully half of the players the Chiefs "poached" were in fact poached by the Crusaders - McKenzie, Bird, SBW and Laulala.

i didnt reply because i thought it was satire

add maisey was a waikato born and raised

Nepia
Nepia
August 30, 11:48pm

@bayimports said in Crusaders 2022:

havent seen it posted an sorry for going back to topic..

TTT a crusader for 2022

So TTT was poached by the Canes, poached back by the Chiefs and now poached by the Crusaders. Triple P as well as triple T.

B

bayimports
August 30, 11:53pm

@nepia said in Crusaders 2022:

@bayimports said in Crusaders 2022:

havent seen it posted an sorry for going back to topic..

TTT a crusader for 2022

So TTT was poached by the Canes, poached back by the Chiefs and now poached by the Crusaders. Triple P as well as triple T.

this has all the makings of a wrestling match, just need triple H to ref

Chris
Chris
August 31, 12:04am

@nepia said in Crusaders 2022:

@bayimports said in Crusaders 2022:

havent seen it posted an sorry for going back to topic..

TTT a crusader for 2022

So TTT was poached by the Canes, poached back by the Chiefs and now poached by the Crusaders. Triple P as well as triple T.

So the Canes started it.Now we know who the real poachers are.

shark
shark
August 31, 12:13am

@kirwan Word is the McCaw homestead, whilst in the Kurow area, is in fact on the other side of the Waitaki, which puts him at least 5m inside the Crusaders' catchment.

mariner4life
mariner4life
August 31, 12:18am

@shark said in Crusaders 2022:

@kirwan Word is the McCaw homestead, whilst in the Kurow area, is in fact on the other side of the Waitaki, which puts him at least 5m inside the Crusaders' catchment.

shit like this is how Poland ended up disappearing from the map