Not happy but can see positives
I am strangely okay with the result. Not happy but can see positives.
Well done to the Boks for being the tad more composed and methodical in the final 10-15. Winning like that was what we regularly used to do in the McCaw era.
For sure the Boks were missing a few locks - DeJager, Snyman and Mostert, but we were missing one player who I think will have a big uptick on our game when he returns - Roigard.
Our backline attack was far better. Sayonara Leon MacDonald, you won't be missed.
We're pretty bloody good across the positions but a few hard calls need to be made. (not right now but perhaps against Oz)
I actually think the best option at fullback is Ruben love. Tidy, pacy and a good head on his shoulders. He strikes me as more solid and less flaky than Jordan.
Obviously Roigard coming back gives us a great running option from the base and improved clearance. He'll add another dimension to our attack.
Midfield went okay, and I think Reiko's pace is an asset in both defence and attack. However, I am interested in seeing Reiko on the wing and Proctor at 13. (Canes4life liked this post)
A great positive to come out of the past few games is that Vaa'i seems to be coming of age and Darry is pretty good too. Now we need a big munter in the loose fowards somewhere (Suafoa?). Our front row has great depth, too.
We'll build from here and we are only a smidgeon behind the boks, whom I think we will beat if played in NZ.
Oh, and Kolisi (in regard to your post-match speeches), you're not Mandela or the second coming of Jesus, you're a rugby player.
I never do this, but that was a fucking disgraceful display of refereeing. That was black and white tour to south africa shit. Get fucked no one saw that first "try". The double standards at the ruck were blatant and disgraceful. I don't know who these cheating fluffybunnies were but they should never get the gig again.
An absolute robbery.
Perfect start to the second half as Jordie catches a gift of an intercept and races away like the lanky giraffe he is.
Ability to exit our own half again an issue as DMac appears to be the best option to catch a kick off and we immediately turn it over. WTF
Less than four minutes into the second half and the Boks need to be replaced en masse.
"both sides of the ball" gives away a penalty in front of the sticks for not rolling away.
Vaa'i with excellent patience and decision making to get a turnover penalty from the kick off..
Arendse knocks himself stupid with an attempted tackle on Rieko's hip. That's South Africa's first legitimate HIA..? 
Ref gives everyone a breather of over two minutes so Kolisi can get major surgery a minor cut wiped away by the waterboy.
"both sides of the ball" bounced off in a tackle attempt.
Cane shows how its done with a great covering tackle on Kriel forces a knock on.
Two phases from the scrum and DMac puts up a shit kick from our side of halfway to be caught in their 22 and a mark called. Meanwhile we have a clear overlap back on the left where the scrum was... Is this our new attack?
Lineout thrown over the top to Jordie who knocks it back to TJP, to DMac, to Beaudy who draws the fullback and Clarke's in for a second.
Exits ffs. Beaudy kicks out on the full after the ball is passed back into the 22.
Williams decides he's a better scrumhalf than TJP so throws a pass to Clarke on the sideline who wisely passes back in field and Jordie has to punt it downfield. What is it with forwards trying to do work that requires a modicum of intellect? The kick is returned which Jordan knocks on and South Africa have a scrum just outside our 22.
Another 90 second rest period for no reason.
South African scrum getting munted turns 90° and ref penalises them gives them another attempt. Probably because they're tired from the rest they just had.
Blackadder is so fucking ineffective at everything he does.
Commentator calls Newell a mobile prop. A bit of humour to start the day.
DMac too deep and a nice kick from the fullback Fassi is regathered. Jordan cleans up but South Africa end up with a lineout five metres out. Kolisi needs a rest goes off for a HIA.
Shot at goal declined for a lineout five metres out. Two hitups by the forwards and TJP is miles away calling for forwards to "get in there" so South Africa obliges and steals the ball.
South African lying on the ground offside at the tackle plays the fucking ball in front of the ref and AR.
How fucking slow is Ethan Blackadder?
Maul clearly stops twice and ref decides instead to give Ofa a yellow card.
Newell displays his "mobility" by being too slow to defend at the ruck and South African barge over under the posts.
Louw says welcome to Ellis Park and sits Finau on his arse. Cane shows him how its done by smashing Kwagga Smith.
Wray, hopelessly out of his depth and out of position, gives South Africa a five metre lineout for a kick that looks to have gone dead.
Ball is lifted by reserve halfback, Cane times his run perfectly. Dimwit with the whistle calls him offside.
de Allende on the All Blacks side of the ruck holds Finau back from covering across and the reserve halfback gleefully takes the gap to score.
Marx comes in and rips the ball while Darry has a knee on the ground. Ardie attempts a turnover but the canny Irish ref sees he was a millimetre offside somehow despite both feet being on the All Black side of the Bok player on the ground.
And with two minutes left on the clock, needing a try to win, Beaudy keeps kicking the ball away.
A final 20mins almost as shit as the South African coverage and refereeing.
@cgrant said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Ref was a disBrace. Every 50/50 call was against the ABs. The non tackle on Darry and then the penalty against Ardie were just incredible. That said, the ABs were poor during the second half, particularly BB, Finau and Jordan. Why did BB kick away so many hard won possessions with just a few minutes to play and ABs trailing by 4 points ?
From an experienced player, that was just insane !
Beaudie has been doing this for years now.
It's farking insane.
One of the best runners in the game and his brain tells him to do a shit kick every time he kicks it.
Not only that he's lost the ability to get any distance.
2 kicks out on the full then another to touch before the hooter goes.
Gifted possession in good position so many times
@Mattasaurus said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@antipodean said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Watching now because I got home a bit munted after the John I Dent final.
Ethan "both sides of the ball" Blackadder couldn't pass to an umarked winger five metres out.
DMac decides to hand back possession from inside our 22 with a useless chip kick to nobody.
Blind ref penalises Ardie one metre from our line for "no clear release" when there's a clear as fuck release which should've been a penalty for holding on.
Blind Irish TMO can't see Mbonambe clearly lose possession over the line.
Cross kick to Clarke and a turnover penalty because South Africans are allowed to place their hands on the ground first.
Cane puts a hard shoulder on South African Black Jesus who coughs up the ball in contact.
Beautiful run by Rieko down the blindside from a scrum, draw and pass to put Jordan into space. Ethan too slow to get there to clean out.
Outstanding attack from turnover ball. DMac and then Lomax dummy to beat rushing defenders and put Clarke in.
Blind clown awards South Africa a scrum penalty despite the tighthead clearly on his knees.
Turnover because "both sides of the ball" can't get there in time to clean out the defender. Has there been a slower loose forward?
And that's the first half. Score should be 3 - 12
Agree with a lot of what you say - but your Blackadder hatred does run deep.....
Ethan was one of my top 3 players today (as have a # of other Ferners going by the MOTM thread)..... cos as you say -- the work on both sides of the ball...
In answer to your slower loose fwds - not trolling... but Frizzel and Ioane were not speed merchants either.... and sure as shit didn't put the consistent work in that Blackadder is showing so far...
A Ioane faster than EB imho
@Mattasaurus said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@antipodean said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Watching now because I got home a bit munted after the John I Dent final.
Ethan "both sides of the ball" Blackadder couldn't pass to an umarked winger five metres out.
DMac decides to hand back possession from inside our 22 with a useless chip kick to nobody.
Blind ref penalises Ardie one metre from our line for "no clear release" when there's a clear as fuck release which should've been a penalty for holding on.
Blind Irish TMO can't see Mbonambe clearly lose possession over the line.
Cross kick to Clarke and a turnover penalty because South Africans are allowed to place their hands on the ground first.
Cane puts a hard shoulder on South African Black Jesus who coughs up the ball in contact.
Beautiful run by Rieko down the blindside from a scrum, draw and pass to put Jordan into space. Ethan too slow to get there to clean out.
Outstanding attack from turnover ball. DMac and then Lomax dummy to beat rushing defenders and put Clarke in.
Blind clown awards South Africa a scrum penalty despite the tighthead clearly on his knees.
Turnover because "both sides of the ball" can't get there in time to clean out the defender. Has there been a slower loose forward?
And that's the first half. Score should be 3 - 12
Agree with a lot of what you say - but your Blackadder hatred does run deep.....
Ethan was one of my top 3 players today (as have a # of other Ferners going by the MOTM thread)..... cos as you say -- the work on both sides of the ball...
In answer to your slower loose fwds - not trolling... but Frizzel and Ioane were not speed merchants either.... and sure as shit didn't put the consistent work in that Blackadder is showing so far...
You're confusing activity with achievement. Blackadder is energetic, not effective.
@WillieTheWaiter said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
One of the best runners in the game
5-10 years ago maybe. He's not the same athlete he used to be (understandably). Which could explain his shift to kicking as he has had to adjust his game
@antipodean said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@Mattasaurus said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@antipodean said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Watching now because I got home a bit munted after the John I Dent final.
Ethan "both sides of the ball" Blackadder couldn't pass to an umarked winger five metres out.
DMac decides to hand back possession from inside our 22 with a useless chip kick to nobody.
Blind ref penalises Ardie one metre from our line for "no clear release" when there's a clear as fuck release which should've been a penalty for holding on.
Blind Irish TMO can't see Mbonambe clearly lose possession over the line.
Cross kick to Clarke and a turnover penalty because South Africans are allowed to place their hands on the ground first.
Cane puts a hard shoulder on South African Black Jesus who coughs up the ball in contact.
Beautiful run by Rieko down the blindside from a scrum, draw and pass to put Jordan into space. Ethan too slow to get there to clean out.
Outstanding attack from turnover ball. DMac and then Lomax dummy to beat rushing defenders and put Clarke in.
Blind clown awards South Africa a scrum penalty despite the tighthead clearly on his knees.
Turnover because "both sides of the ball" can't get there in time to clean out the defender. Has there been a slower loose forward?
And that's the first half. Score should be 3 - 12
Agree with a lot of what you say - but your Blackadder hatred does run deep.....
Ethan was one of my top 3 players today (as have a # of other Ferners going by the MOTM thread)..... cos as you say -- the work on both sides of the ball...
In answer to your slower loose fwds - not trolling... but Frizzel and Ioane were not speed merchants either.... and sure as shit didn't put the consistent work in that Blackadder is showing so far...
You're confusing activity with achievement. Blackadder is energetic, not effective.
no I am not confused, you are only watching Blackadder with with one eye...
@Mattasaurus said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@antipodean said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@Mattasaurus said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@antipodean said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Watching now because I got home a bit munted after the John I Dent final.
Ethan "both sides of the ball" Blackadder couldn't pass to an umarked winger five metres out.
DMac decides to hand back possession from inside our 22 with a useless chip kick to nobody.
Blind ref penalises Ardie one metre from our line for "no clear release" when there's a clear as fuck release which should've been a penalty for holding on.
Blind Irish TMO can't see Mbonambe clearly lose possession over the line.
Cross kick to Clarke and a turnover penalty because South Africans are allowed to place their hands on the ground first.
Cane puts a hard shoulder on South African Black Jesus who coughs up the ball in contact.
Beautiful run by Rieko down the blindside from a scrum, draw and pass to put Jordan into space. Ethan too slow to get there to clean out.
Outstanding attack from turnover ball. DMac and then Lomax dummy to beat rushing defenders and put Clarke in.
Blind clown awards South Africa a scrum penalty despite the tighthead clearly on his knees.
Turnover because "both sides of the ball" can't get there in time to clean out the defender. Has there been a slower loose forward?
And that's the first half. Score should be 3 - 12
Agree with a lot of what you say - but your Blackadder hatred does run deep.....
Ethan was one of my top 3 players today (as have a # of other Ferners going by the MOTM thread)..... cos as you say -- the work on both sides of the ball...
In answer to your slower loose fwds - not trolling... but Frizzel and Ioane were not speed merchants either.... and sure as shit didn't put the consistent work in that Blackadder is showing so far...
You're confusing activity with achievement. Blackadder is energetic, not effective.
no I am not confused, you are only watching Blackadder with with one eye...
Point me to one of the following:
- A covering tackle.
- A dominant tackle.
- An effective cleanout.
- A dominant carry.
@KiwiMurph said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@WillieTheWaiter said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
One of the best runners in the game
5-10 years ago maybe. He's not the same athlete he used to be (understandably). Which could explain his shift to kicking as he has had to adjust his game
He used to be a pin point accurate kicker too, he’s been shit at kicking for those last 5 or so years
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
I thought the ref generally had a good game.
Well that makes you and Mrs Brace.
@booboo said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
I thought the ref generally had a good game.
Well that makes you and Mrs Brace.
If we had handled the bomb squad better the ref wouldn't have mattered.
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@booboo said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
I thought the ref generally had a good game.
Well that makes you and Mrs Brace.
If we had handled the bomb squad better the ref wouldn't have mattered.
Did you watch the game? It's not that practically every conceivable penalty was awarded against us, so were the inconceivable.
The Mbonabe try. Marx's rip on Darry. Ardie's turnover.
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@booboo said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
I thought the ref generally had a good game.
Well that makes you and Mrs Brace.
If we had handled the bomb squad better the ref wouldn't have mattered.
But he did didn't he?
The tight forwards looked good to me, would slip Ofa off the bench and welcome back the Groot but it is what it is.
But BB had another blah game, Ioane needs to recover his attacking mojo, and I'm still not convinced on Mark T, can he jump in the air, can he keep up? A weapon if he is back to 100%
Loosies for me, Cane was doing ok but overall they are too slow and not dangerous. I'd be tempted to bench Ardie and find a faster player at 6 or 7 (Lakai?) I agree there is a height problem but note if Cane was at 6 he'd lose a cm against EB. Going by stats. And plays like a 6. I do note Matfield praised EB's meddling against the Argie lineout but EB just doesn't seem to know what to do with the ball when in hand.
@antipodean said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@booboo said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
I thought the ref generally had a good game.
Well that makes you and Mrs Brace.
If we had handled the bomb squad better the ref wouldn't have mattered.
Did you watch the game? It's not that practically every conceivable penalty was awarded against us, so were the inconceivable.
The Mbonabe try. Marx's rip on Darry. Ardie's turnover.
Yeah the rip and Ardie's turnover were bad. Didn't help us at all
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@antipodean said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@booboo said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
I thought the ref generally had a good game.
Well that makes you and Mrs Brace.
If we had handled the bomb squad better the ref wouldn't have mattered.
Did you watch the game? It's not that practically every conceivable penalty was awarded against us, so were the inconceivable.
The Mbonabe try. Marx's rip on Darry. Ardie's turnover.
Yeah the rip and Ardie's turnover were bad. Didn't help us at all
And the call against TJP
@nostrildamus said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@antipodean said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@booboo said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
I thought the ref generally had a good game.
Well that makes you and Mrs Brace.
If we had handled the bomb squad better the ref wouldn't have mattered.
Did you watch the game? It's not that practically every conceivable penalty was awarded against us, so were the inconceivable.
The Mbonabe try. Marx's rip on Darry. Ardie's turnover.
Yeah the rip and Ardie's turnover were bad. Didn't help us at all
And the call against TJP
We couldn't get out of our half. When we needed a long touch finder we couldn't get one
Ref shit show aside. Crazy game. Both teams wildly inaccurate which makes the game sort of better (rugby is a way better sport with chaos).
So much good from us, and then so much bad. Score points? Good, immediately invite pressure? Bad.
BB good in attack but kick error kick error.
Wingers good, especially Clarke and Jordan crossing the field to link up with him.
Midfield really good. Reiko's best game this year, Jordie playing to the level we need.
DMac kicked too much ball, which was obviously a plan, but watching him give the defence kittens by running just made that plan even more stupid.
TJ was good. I forgive that mouth penalty because the ref absolutely fucked that up.
Loose forwards? No. Savea is playing crap. Getting bundled in to touch in that first attack was criminal. And he made shit tons of errors. Also, hit a ruck fluffybunny. EB tried his guts out. But he's just not very good. Cane did what cane does. But where was the ruck pressure. The 3 do not compliment each other, and thr A Savea 2-ball lineout was exposed by the much taller Africans.
I didn't know Vaai was that good. Huge game. Looked like the senior lock. Trusted at lineout, at least tried to take on their lineout. Won turnovers. Hit a couple of guys really hard too.
Starting front row were all excellent.
We didn't really get anything out of the bench.
South Africa were a bit shit for most of that game, and yes we got stitched up, but we invited top much pressure from bad kicking options. And by fuck can we find a fast flanker to keep the ball in wide channels?
@Duluth said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Main change this year is his top end pace is back. People talk about the power game but he’s one of the quicker wingers in NZ. There was a game during RWC where he looked as slow as a tight forward.. must have been the calf issues
He just looks “tidier” too - hands good, balance better. A lock for the 11 jumper for me
@Duluth said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Main change this year is his top end pace is back. People talk about the power game but he’s one of the quicker wingers in NZ. There was a game during RWC where he looked as slow as a tight forward.. must have been the calf issues
Yes and his balance, he falls over only when tackled now. His consistency as well makes him a joy to watch. Best AB 11 at moment for me.
They had called so much back for minor indiscretions that the TMO had picked up on, but then they just let the try stand. And they can't even claim they had to let it stand due to the conversion being taken, as that was rubbed out for not being taken in time! I don't know what to make of that, simultaneous brain farts from the ref and TMO?
@W32 said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@nzzp said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@W32 said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@Jet said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
15-5 penalty count?
Your side needs better discipline and game management
Ths is exactly what your supporters said to your team after the 2011 QF against Aus, eh
Are you saying the boks lost that game because of dodgy reffing?
Yes I am. Dodgy Officiating.
How can a try be awarded when Bongi Monambi knew he didn't score (look at his disappointment face), the majority of the crowd after seeing the screen knew he didn't score and same with the TMO. At this point the game is a farce and the whole thing is wrong.
I don't want to be a bad sport and the Boks were great in the last 15 minutes but how do South Africans justify the Monambi try.
Don't know what to feel after that, we played well, the Boks fought tenaciously, but felt like the ref rode them home in the end (glad I didn't stay up and watch as I would have had an angry sleep).
Haven't read the match thread yet to see the rest of the forum's thoughts on the performance, might do so later today, hopefully this one is less constantly big upping favourite player/putting down least favourite player like the last few clusterfuck match threads have been.
Enough to see in that match though to think that maybe the team is starting gel under the messiah.
Clarke is looking good, the Boks look to be Jordan's nemesis team, we couldn't really get him into the game.
I still don't get Ta$man Jesus, busy but ineffective, doesn't suit running in the wide channels like he was at the start of the game, doesn't have the pace or the ball skills for that. Seemingly he has the 6 position locked up going forward under the Tubby Bitch forward coach so hopefully he adds some effective to the busy.
So good not to have to listen to Nisbo commentary, much prefer the Saffas with Marshall chiming in for some comment.
Anyone know what TJ said to the refer to get penalised?
That was a great test match.
Yes there were errors from both sides, but they both brought great intensity, some great attack and some crunching defence.
Clarke was great, after losing his starting spot a year or two back, has worked bloody hard at his game and come back a pretty complete winger.
Thought our midfield was excellent, hard straight running with a few subtle variations, kept the Boks guessing.
Overall our backline play flowed waaaay better than it has been, we actually saw our outside backs getting the ball in a bit of space.
Forwards fronted up against the hyped Boks forward pack and bomb squad.
We failed to take a couple of big opportunities late in the game, and the Boks got some fucking dodgy calls go their way, and in the end that was the difference.
On another day we’d be talking about one of the great AB wins in the Republic.
Despite all the over hyping about how good SA are and the negativity around the AB’s, these are two very evenly matched teams.
Looking forward to the next game.
@BerniesCorner said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@W32 said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@nzzp said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@W32 said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@Jet said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
15-5 penalty count?
Your side needs better discipline and game management
Ths is exactly what your supporters said to your team after the 2011 QF against Aus, eh
Are you saying the boks lost that game because of dodgy reffing?
Yes I am. Dodgy Officiating.
How can a try be awarded when Bongi Monambi knew he didn't score (look at his disappointment face), the majority of the crowd after seeing the screen knew he didn't score and same with the TMO. At this point the game is a farce and the whole thing is wrong.
I don't want to be a bad sport and the Boks were great in the last 15 minutes but how do South Africans justify the Monambi try.
Yeah, the try was dodgy. Very poor not to check it, and for the TMO not to intercede.
That said, the AB's were up 10 points with not much time left on the clock. They blew it.
@Gunner said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Despite all the over hyping about how good SA are and the negativity around the AB’s, these are two very evenly matched teams.
This...man it is so amusing reading back post match, makes you wonder if people actually enjoy watching the game anymore.
And then the whining about the ref, here and SM we are becoming what we've always accused Saffa fans of.
Sadly, most post match comment nowadays is about the ref, not the game.
Entertaining game, closer than I expected.
With a good loose forward trio we win that comfortably. Savea was the worst, Cane one dimensional, and Ethan is a one trick pony, makes a lot of tackles, none that dominant, huge engine, etc, etc. He’s like playing with a loosie missing at the ruck, just ineffective.
Cost Clarke a hat trick too not passing when he was free.
Ellis Park might just be my favourite opposition ground, atmosphere was magnificent and anthem was awesome. Kolbe is great to watch too, great winger.
As much as that was an appalling refereeing performance, I find it hard to dislike a ref who penalises TJP for yapping. If that had happened in his first test instead of (hopefully) his last, rugby would have been better for it - and who knows, with all that extra time not talking he might have even learned to pass.
That's one of the worst most braindead fullback performances I've seen in a long time. BB is well past his BBD. It's a shame Jordan is playing mediocre at present.
Midfield looked lots better, although Lomax perhaps looking the most natural centre we've seen this year. McKenzie pretty good.
Pack largely pretty good.
Lotsa good stuff really. Unfortunately, from a winning position we had zero composure, with the leader of the headless chook panic stuff being our massively experienced senior leadership BB. Fuck my days.
We always struggle with refs who are lenient on the jackle - because we've convinced ourselves that that part of the game isnt important anymore. This reffing performance was more than that though, I haven't seen a try with a clear knock-on slip through the cracks without even a look in ages, let alone in a match this big - that appears very fucking suss.
@reprobate said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
This reffing performance was more than that though, I haven't seen a try with a clear knock-on slip through the cracks without even a look in ages, let alone in a match this big - that appears very fucking suss.
The TMO knew it wasn't a try before the next restart. Enquiry please.
@Bones said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@Dan54 said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
It was clearly a try, the ref put his hand in air and indicated such!
Yes as you say, that's a fair beerfaction.
Hey everyone life is back to normal, Dan agrees with the powers that be.
Yep and as normal some don't want to accept the laws of the game, no problem, I expect I am right though
TMO didn't see a probelm, neither did ref, so not sure why there an argument.
Besides all else I not convinced he lost it forward, looked straight down to me .
@Jet said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@Dan54 said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Well that people was what I call a test match. Geez I loved it, ok a slight disappointment at loss, but not enough to make me not love the game!
Thought it was a fair brefection of how game was played out, and would be disappoinetd with anyone blaming ref or individual player. That is how so many AB/Bok game have been played over the years and why I love them so much. Perhaps AB bench players will be a little disappointed, looked caught in headlights a bit, but fellas that's playing at Ellis Park, one of great rugby venues for AB/Bok tests.
Oh and anyone questioning the Boks first try? It was clearly a try, the ref put his hand in air and indicated such!Youve copied and pasted the same post into planet rugby forum you sad prick.
You wont even dignify us with exclusive content.
I don't ever copy and paste a comment, might have said same, but that's ok go for it mate, I put similar on another one where all kiwis were getting called moaning pricks for arguing.
I just realised this might have been your post on PR??
'The match was fixed. Hard to conclude anything else.'
This (your?) posters take on reffing performance. on the ref FFS, just embarassing to me.