NZ blew that

Dumb dumb rugby

Ball should have been kicked dead at around 77 mins to get Ofa back on the pitch

NZ played with 14 for the last 3 minutes when they didn't need to

Yes Brace was rubbish but NZ have themselves to blame

Perfect start to the second half as Jordie catches a gift of an intercept and races away like the lanky giraffe he is.

Ability to exit our own half again an issue as DMac appears to be the best option to catch a kick off and we immediately turn it over. WTF

Less than four minutes into the second half and the Boks need to be replaced en masse.

"both sides of the ball" gives away a penalty in front of the sticks for not rolling away.

Vaa'i with excellent patience and decision making to get a turnover penalty from the kick off..

Arendse knocks himself stupid with an attempted tackle on Rieko's hip. That's South Africa's first legitimate HIA..?

Ref gives everyone a breather of over two minutes so Kolisi can get major surgery a minor cut wiped away by the waterboy.

"both sides of the ball" bounced off in a tackle attempt.

Cane shows how its done with a great covering tackle on Kriel forces a knock on.

Two phases from the scrum and DMac puts up a shit kick from our side of halfway to be caught in their 22 and a mark called. Meanwhile we have a clear overlap back on the left where the scrum was... Is this our new attack?

Lineout thrown over the top to Jordie who knocks it back to TJP, to DMac, to Beaudy who draws the fullback and Clarke's in for a second.

Exits ffs. Beaudy kicks out on the full after the ball is passed back into the 22.

Williams decides he's a better scrumhalf than TJP so throws a pass to Clarke on the sideline who wisely passes back in field and Jordie has to punt it downfield. What is it with forwards trying to do work that requires a modicum of intellect? The kick is returned which Jordan knocks on and South Africa have a scrum just outside our 22.

Another 90 second rest period for no reason.

South African scrum getting munted turns 90° and ref penalises them gives them another attempt. Probably because they're tired from the rest they just had.

Blackadder is so fucking ineffective at everything he does.

Commentator calls Newell a mobile prop. A bit of humour to start the day.

DMac too deep and a nice kick from the fullback Fassi is regathered. Jordan cleans up but South Africa end up with a lineout five metres out. Kolisi needs a rest goes off for a HIA.

Shot at goal declined for a lineout five metres out. Two hitups by the forwards and TJP is miles away calling for forwards to "get in there" so South Africa obliges and steals the ball.

South African lying on the ground offside at the tackle plays the fucking ball in front of the ref and AR.

How fucking slow is Ethan Blackadder?

Maul clearly stops twice and ref decides instead to give Ofa a yellow card.

Newell displays his "mobility" by being too slow to defend at the ruck and South African barge over under the posts.

Louw says welcome to Ellis Park and sits Finau on his arse. Cane shows him how its done by smashing Kwagga Smith.

Wray, hopelessly out of his depth and out of position, gives South Africa a five metre lineout for a kick that looks to have gone dead.

Ball is lifted by reserve halfback, Cane times his run perfectly. Dimwit with the whistle calls him offside.

de Allende on the All Blacks side of the ruck holds Finau back from covering across and the reserve halfback gleefully takes the gap to score.

Marx comes in and rips the ball while Darry has a knee on the ground. Ardie attempts a turnover but the canny Irish ref sees he was a millimetre offside somehow despite both feet being on the All Black side of the Bok player on the ground.

And with two minutes left on the clock, needing a try to win, Beaudy keeps kicking the ball away.

A final 20mins almost as shit as the South African coverage and refereeing.

I never do this, but that was a fucking disgraceful display of refereeing. That was black and white tour to south africa shit. Get fucked no one saw that first "try". The double standards at the ruck were blatant and disgraceful. I don't know who these cheating fluffybunnies were but they should never get the gig again.

An absolute robbery.

Who do you guys think is in charge of HT tactical changes? Who has the strongest voice in the dressing room?

I assume it’s Razor mostly, but do you think BB / Cane / TJP etc have much of a say?

Because the one thing this entire forum seems to agree on from this game is that it’s the best our midfield has looked in a long time. And while I only played in the 12 jumper at a pretty low grade, I know I always played better when I saw the fucking ball sometimes

So who the hell had the brainwave to stop being patient, stop letting Jordie and Rieko do damage up the middle of the park, and instead have us put up repeated bombs from 10 / 15?

Fuck, we even stopped the attempts at long touchfinders in favour of the shorter bombs

I just don’t get why we went away from what was clearly working - keeping ball in hand and making the bastards tackle us.

It’s like we stopped trying to win and instead tried not to lose - but even that doesn’t explain why we stopped trying to kick deep into their half

Perplexing

Probably one of the worst AB losses I have ever seen given the context.

We were in complete control. 15 mins left we're in their 22. If we score there this game becomes a blowout.

Ignore the refereeing, we completely blew the game that last 15.

Failed exists, knockons, DUMB penalties (Finau literally given multiple warnings and ignores the ref).

Dumb dumb dumb completely unnecessary loss.
And with that the rugby championship should also be gone now.

Disgusting loss.

@No-Quarter said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

I think SA are vastly overrated and we are every chance of winning both

I reckon we are a real chance only if Razor does the right thing and selects:

Williams, Taylor, Newell, Scooter, Darry, Blackadder, Token, Token, Hotham, Token, Reece, Havili, Token, Jordan, Jordie

I’m back

You're talking shit Daryl

I'll watch that final again (no I won't) and watch jordie stink the joint out.
DdE is the player Jordie fluffers think Jordie is. I would take him in a heartbeat.
Kreil is hugely underrated here, he is strong on the carry and free his outsides. If he was a kiwi people would cream over him.

Being positive Cane was bloody good.

How good was Lomax for Clarke's try? Delaying the pass like a midfielder, so great to watch. Awesome scrums, too

At half time I thought we were playing well enough to keep any officiating issues or cards away from being a major. Final 15 minutes was very disappointing as a result. Definitely one that was let slip.

@mariner4life said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

Midfield really good. Reiko's best game this year, Jordie playing to the level we need.

I’ve been a bit surprised at some of the post game comments that were critical or didn’t acknowledge this because I thought he was superb. He put pressure on the Bok defence time and again. His involvement at attacking rucks was excellent too given the way we were attacking and the Boks defending.

Far more assertive and involved. Was great to see.

Some have harked back to the McCaw era and what is worth pointing out is that during that golden phase of AB success we had some rabbit out of the hat wins at the death similar to what the Boks did last night (reffing aside). And that was an AB side laden with class across the park. The Boks had some class too no doubt. But more often than not the ABs would find a way. Wasn’t always the case in the early period of McCaw’s reign as captain. It was the Boks that found a way.

We made errors, the Boks did also. The pressure and chaos was all there. But there were some distinct things that were good to see, but plenty to work on for some, which given the scoreline does have some promise.

@nostrildamus said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

has Cane played much with EB? I can't recall. The trio may actually work well together. Well, here's hoping.

Has ANYONE played much with EB is the more pertinent question.

@Mattasaurus said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

@antipodean said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

Watching now because I got home a bit munted after the John I Dent final.

Ethan "both sides of the ball" Blackadder couldn't pass to an umarked winger five metres out.

DMac decides to hand back possession from inside our 22 with a useless chip kick to nobody.

Blind ref penalises Ardie one metre from our line for "no clear release" when there's a clear as fuck release which should've been a penalty for holding on.

Blind Irish TMO can't see Mbonambe clearly lose possession over the line.

Cross kick to Clarke and a turnover penalty because South Africans are allowed to place their hands on the ground first.

Cane puts a hard shoulder on South African Black Jesus who coughs up the ball in contact.

Beautiful run by Rieko down the blindside from a scrum, draw and pass to put Jordan into space. Ethan too slow to get there to clean out.

Outstanding attack from turnover ball. DMac and then Lomax dummy to beat rushing defenders and put Clarke in.

Blind clown awards South Africa a scrum penalty despite the tighthead clearly on his knees.

Turnover because "both sides of the ball" can't get there in time to clean out the defender. Has there been a slower loose forward?

And that's the first half. Score should be 3 - 12

Agree with a lot of what you say - but your Blackadder hatred does run deep.....

Ethan was one of my top 3 players today (as have a # of other Ferners going by the MOTM thread)..... cos as you say -- the work on both sides of the ball...

In answer to your slower loose fwds - not trolling... but Frizzel and Ioane were not speed merchants either.... and sure as shit didn't put the consistent work in that Blackadder is showing so far...

You're confusing activity with achievement. Blackadder is energetic, not effective.

That was a great test match.

Yes there were errors from both sides, but they both brought great intensity, some great attack and some crunching defence.

Clarke was great, after losing his starting spot a year or two back, has worked bloody hard at his game and come back a pretty complete winger.

Thought our midfield was excellent, hard straight running with a few subtle variations, kept the Boks guessing.

Overall our backline play flowed waaaay better than it has been, we actually saw our outside backs getting the ball in a bit of space.

Forwards fronted up against the hyped Boks forward pack and bomb squad.

We failed to take a couple of big opportunities late in the game, and the Boks got some fucking dodgy calls go their way, and in the end that was the difference.

On another day we’d be talking about one of the great AB wins in the Republic.

Despite all the over hyping about how good SA are and the negativity around the AB’s, these are two very evenly matched teams.

Looking forward to the next game.